“The graveyard of world empires—Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Mayan, Khmer, Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian—followed the same trajectory of moral and physical collapse.”
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“The difference now, as Joseph Tainter points out in ‘The Collapse of Complex Societies,’ is that collapse, if and when it comes again, will this time be global. “
The Dance of Death
By Chris Hedges
The ruling corporate elites no longer seek to build.
They seek to destroy.
They are agents of death.
They crave the unimpeded power to cannibalize the country and pollute and degrade the ecosystem to feed an insatiable lust for wealth, power and hedonism.
Wars and military “virtues” are celebrated.
Intelligence, empathy and the common good are banished.
Culture is degraded to patriotic kitsch.
Education is designed only to instill technical proficiency to serve the poisonous engine of corporate capitalism.
Historical amnesia shuts us off from the past, the present and the future.
Those branded as unproductive or redundant are discarded and left to struggle in poverty or locked away in cages.
State repression is indiscriminant and brutal.
And, presiding over the tawdry Grand Guignol is a deranged ringmaster tweeting absurdities from the White House.
The graveyard of world empires—Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Mayan…
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Hedges is a truly insightful writer. His explanation for our tailspin is better than most. These lines caught my eye: “Sigmund Freud wrote that societies, along with individuals, are driven by two primary instincts. One is the instinct for life, Eros, the quest to love, nurture, protect and preserve. The second is the death instinct. The death instinct, called Thanatos by post-Freudians, is driven by fear, hatred and violence….”
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And “crisis cults” and “social myth” and “the severance of a society from reality.”
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Indeed. One of my continuing debates with right-wingers, religious fundamentalists, nihilists, anarchists, and even some ideological liberals, surrounds the human instinct to disassociate from unpleasant realities. Especially in times of stress, we tend to prioritize our subjective thinking over objective frames of reference. This can get us personally, and collectively, in a lot of trouble.
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Sadly, our society doesn’t encourage peace practices that develop detachment, objectivity, and clarity. If we ask nicely, perhaps Betsy DeVos will put meditation in the school curriculum?
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Betsy DeVos, the charter school queen… good grief!
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Interesting…
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It is a bleak picture he paints. . . 😦
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Yes, but unfortunately it’s hard to see that picture as inaccurate.
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I know the guy is brilliant but I find it almost impossible to agree to that scenario. Is it because I’m an optimist? Or is it because I refuse to believe that the good in the world just can’t possibly be squelched . .. because there is still so much that’s good.
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Maybe this will help, please see the conversation between JoAnn and I: https://thesecularjurist.wordpress.com/2017/03/17/the-dance-of-death-climatechange-neoliberalism-auspol/comment-page-1/#comment-14375
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Yes, I read that first Robert. I have read lots of Chris Hedges’ writing but have always found myself disagreeing with his ‘dark’ opinion. As I said, it’s obvious he’s a brilliant man but his consistent negativity I find to be problematic. Or – and it’s quite possible – I just don’t want to accept his assertions.
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Maybe both are true.
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Or am I just as delusional as all those religious nutters I argue with? 😉
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Not delusional, perhaps afraid (as I am).
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(Your non-response is an affirmation).
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No, no… I’ve been busy for the last few hours, sorry.
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A bit off-topic, but I just discovered your book (The Martian Patriarch). I favor Sci-fi books, movies, tv, so it sounds like something I’d enjoy. However, it doesn’t seem to be available as an eBook … ?? Did I miss something or is it only in hard copy? I rarely buy the latter so I’m hoping you can direct me to the former. 😉
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Thanks, Nan. Go to my Home page and you’ll see a link to my Science Fiction page. There, you should see a link for the CreateSpace eBook version. Sorry, I didn’t publish a Kindle version. If you can’t find it, let me know. 🙂
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I just checked the CreateSpace link, and the eBook version no longer appears available… arrggghhhh! Sorry, Nan.
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Bummer!
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Bob … I just sent you an email (@live.com address). Hope this is a correct. I got it from your Profile.
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Thanks Nan, I’ll get back to you later.
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Nan, I just sent you an email with my MOBI eBook attachment. Hope you enjoy!
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Got it! Thank you so much!!! Send me a bill.
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Here’s my bill… lol!
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bTbFAO4a&id=E3C43F36A9BF61518205E528A56D88A59740CE8A&q=bill+cartoon&simid=608013164004312025&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0
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Cute. 🙂 Thank you again. Appreciate your generosity. If you haven’t yet read my book, let me know and I’ll get a copy off to you.
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Yes, I’d love a copy! 🙂
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I have my book listed at Smashwords.com, which offers several different formats. I have generated a coupon for you that is good until Wednesday, March 22nd. Just type in the name of my book (Things I Never Learned in Sunday School) and it will take you to a page where you’ll be able to select the format you want. Then click on “Buy,” enter the coupon code (below), and Voila! (I think/hope.)
Let me know if you run into any difficulties.
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:08 PM, The Secular Jurist wrote:
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Awesome! Thank you so much! 🙂
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Just got it, thank you! As I told John Zande, I’m old fashioned and prefer a physical book to read; but, read your eBook I certainly will. Where can I post a review?
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Hey … if you prefer a hardcopy, I have a few on hand and would be happy to mail one to you. Forward me your address (via email) and I’ll try to get one on its way this week.
Since most people order through Amazon, that would probably be the best place to post a review. 🙂
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Thanks Nan, but I’ll read the eBook. It’s time for me to catch-up with technology – lol!
Question, if you can answer: my novel was self-published through CreateSpace and listed on Amazon (now available only in print). Can I legally publish eBook versions of it on SmashWords?
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It’s time for me to catch-up with technology Good for you! 😀
I’m sending you an email related to your question related to publishing an eBook version.
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Thank you! 🙂
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Carmen seems to be on the right track – Pastor Hedges, a blatant anti-secularist, is a miserable public figure – a Johnny-come-lately to the poor micro-Left.
He is utterly without humor, joy, or self-analysis. Every week it is the same sermon, the same dull litany that everyone should know by now. Join him in his Christian crusade to revivify a monkish life devoted the reading of classics and pontificating at lecterns, and watch your hold on sanity disappear.
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Sorry, but I disagree.
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That’s the first criticism of Chris Hedges I have ever read — I thought I was the only one. . .
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Everybody has an opinion…
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Robert,
I’ve just spent time doing some research on Chris Hedges. I must say that, before this, I had only read ‘snippets’ of his writing. I can see now that his opinions are very controversial and, in particular, his criticism of New Atheists make him sound not much different than some of the most ardent fundamentalists. Needless to say, I’m less than impressed. 😦
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Fair enough, but please don’t fall into the demonization trap like notabilia. It’s one thing to critique the message, but quite another to shoot the messenger.
I highly recommend reading Hedges’ 2006 bestseller American Fascists – The Christian Right and the War on America.
Regarding New Atheism, many secularists including myself have been critical. If you’re so inclined, see:
Why our Lack of Understanding leads to Conflict on Religion (and why we are all really agnostic)
Machinations of the Thought Police
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I wrote that comment first thing this a.m. and have read some more. What I’m finding is that I agree with certain things he says – that neoliberalism is responsible for a great deal of our woes, that YES – the Christian Right has basically taken over politically in the US, and I am definitely onside about the eradication of the sex trade industry – I find that his criticism is not followed up by any sensible suggestion of change. I don’t know about you but it seems to me an easy thing to criticize, lambast, and vilify and the mark of a truly intellectual person is that they’ve got workable solutions. He doesn’t. For instance, suggesting non-violent ‘revolution’. . . is that realistic??
Another thing that struck me is that I’ve been reading Counter Punch for awhile now and I’d never noticed anything of Chris Hedges’ on there. . .and then got a notification of a radio program . . . but it strikes me as odd that I’ve never read any of his blog posts on that site. Wouldn’t you think they’d be touting his opinions? Also, I see that he was ordained in 2014. He has such a dark opinion of humanity that I wonder if he’s a closet ‘End Times’ believer? He rather sounds like some of them. Perhaps he’s clever enough not to want to be associated with some of those asshats and keeps that aspect of his thinking closely guarded?
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Good points, but after reading ‘American Fascists…’ it’s very hard for me to see Hedges as an End Times believer – quite the contrary, in my view.
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I’ll have to see if I can get that at the Library. Thanks.
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I haven’t done any research on this, but I wonder if we will exhaust oil and other fossil fuels before any major collapse occurs?
In fact, I have been pondering that, if someone comes up with a super cheap form of producing solar energy in the next say, 15 -20 years just for home hearing and running motor cars will that make a real difference?
I am not that savvy to know. Maybe someone here has a better insight?
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Climatologically speaking, enough fossil fuels have already been burned to produce some sort of catastrophe for modern civilization. So now, it’s only a question of how bad the collapse will be.
Solar and wind power have already become cost-competitive with fossil fuels. The biggest impediment today is developing the social mechanisms necessary for a speedy transition. What’s holding us back, obviously, is the corruption of government by big money and corporate influence.
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